Podcast: 3 CMMS strategies to eliminate redundant maintenance work

In this episode of Great Question: A Manufacturing Podcast, Brian Hronchek of Eruditio reveals three common CMMS functions that you can use to improve planner efficiency and reduce duplicate tasks.
March 19, 2026
23 min read

Key Highlights

  • Standardizing PM activities in CMMS eliminates duplicate work and enables scalable maintenance across assets and sites.

  • Use CMMS activity modules as a job plan library to streamline both preventive and corrective maintenance workflows.

  • Resource-based planning in CMMS prevents shutdown conflicts and improves outage execution efficiency

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In this episode of Great Question: A Manufacturing Podcast, Plant Services chief editor Thomas Wilk and Eruditio principal trainer and consultant Brian Hronchek discuss how many organizations underutilize their CMMS systems and miss opportunities for efficiency. They explore practical strategies to unlock more value, including standardizing preventive maintenance activities and leveraging built-in functionality for corrective work. The conversation also highlights how better resource planning can improve outage execution and reduce costly conflicts.

Below is an excerpt from the podcast:

TW: Hi everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of Great Question, a Manufacturing podcast brought to you by Endeavor B2B and Plant Services, part of Endeavor's Manufacturing Group. I'm Tom Wilk, the chief editor of Plant Services, and today we're coming live from the Marcon Conference in Knoxville, TN sponsored by the Reliability and Maintainability Center, run by Klaus Blache. Today's guest is a familiar one to you podcast listeners out there. We have Brian Hronchek from Eruditio, welcome back to the podcast, Brian!

BH: Thanks, Tom. This is always one of my favorite things about the conferences is hanging out with you and getting to do these things and turn on the light for people out there. So I'm excited.

TW: That's great. We have tackled FMECAs and FMEAs. We've tackled root cause analysis and we've tackled PM optimization. And when we were talking today about a topic that you see really hitting the people you work with, you nominated it and I thought it was a terrific topic. 

Today we're going to talk about CMMS systems, a couple of things that people can do to get some usefulness out of them beyond what they may already be getting. And also, frankly, sometimes you implement these things, they're million-dollar doorstops, and you wish you knew how to get more out of them, but you don't. So for those listening today, Brian's going to let us know a couple of things he sees people doing that drive value.

BH: Yeah, this story or this topic has a lot of personal history with me because when I started in oil, you know, the company had SAP. And maybe some of you can relate to this. We were using SAP to print paperwork that we handed to the technicians, that they hand wrote their notes. We put them in a folder and we carried the folder to the shed behind the building and we stored them in case we needed to retrieve them in the future. Right? 

That is how we used it. There was no entry back into the system. It was just completely the worst-case use of SAP for anything, and so that's where my story starts with CMMSs.

TW: You can't see my face, but my jaw is actually sitting there on the floor right now. And the tough thing is, I mean, this is an altogether common story out there where a plant thinks they need one, they know they need one, but when it comes to actually getting the most out of it, people are using it to, as you say, print paper or worse. I heard one story where someone had used it to do budget planning. It wasn't being used for asset management or spare parts optimization. It was simply a tool that they had, and so they're like, all right, well, let's find out what we're doing and how much it's costing. The best part was it led to bigger things because once they got their arms around the budget and the activities, they actually bucketed their work and understood what was the high value work and what wasn't the high value work. But it all started with that first step.

BH: Yeah, no, for sure. I've seen something recently out in the industry. So when I started in 2014, of course we were using our CMMS very, very poorly, and I realized very early that we were using it poorly, but I didn't necessarily have the backing to really understand how to use it. So I did a little Google searching and I did some things and I improved on what we did. 

But legitimately, whoever adopted the system at the corporate level, the training that they had put together taught the maintenance managers and taught the maintenance planners probably the most inefficient way to build PMs in SAP ever. And it was to the point where it was like every single PM was another manual entry. Repeating the work over and over. So, more than 10 times the work to get the same results, administrative work to get the same results in the system. And every change, of course, then you want to modify something, you're going to modify it hundreds of times instead of once. It's just awful. Right? 

So I started that journey, and, you know, for me, you know, looking at that, something inside me said, that's not right. So I started looking for a better answer. And then I moved to another company, moved in steel, and we were using a different system. But I saw the same thing again was whoever was at the corporate level rolling these things out, were rolling them out with training that wasn't optimized. It was like, yeah, it got the job done, it got what we needed, but it was less efficient. The training itself was probably more complicated than it needed to be because you were creating a workaround rather than figuring out how to use the CMMS. Right?

Now coming to this side, to consulting, the customers for a long time have still been in that mindset where I'm like, “Hey, I know how to use this! Let me tell you, there's a lot of functionality in here!” And they're like, “No, it's fine. We're just going to write the thing in Microsoft Word. We're going to upload it to each asset. You know, we're just going to do it that way. It's just fine.”

But for some reason this year, there's been a shift. Suddenly, almost everybody that I talk to is saying, “We need to get the most functionality out of the CMMS. We need to be pulling all the capability out of the CMMS. We need to use it for the function the way that it's supposed to be.” And for me, it's refreshing. I'm so excited because I get to go and start helping them move in that direction and be more efficient. But it puts the question in the back of my mind, like, “what is driving that behavior?” because everybody is driving that direction. I don't know why.

TW: Interesting. I wonder if it's sort of a hangover from the era of “let's keep the powder dry,” and let's be careful what we spend money on and let's use what we've got. It could be, who knows? But we can dive right into it. There's dozens of things we could talk about, but for our podcast today, everyone, Brian's narrowed it down to three primary topics that he wants to hit. So let's just jump right in. What's the first thing you're seeing people can do to take that step and start getting some added value out of their CMMS?

BH: Yeah, so let's start with that PM functionality. When we were taught to write the PMs, it was, go create the activity on the asset and create step by step and everything goes in there and then you start the clock on that one, and then you go to the next asset which was an identical asset with a different asset number, and you repeat copy and paste and do it again. You go to the next asset, right? So it's very inefficient. 

What we didn't know and what we know now is that there's actually three parts under the surface in your CMMS. When you and I look at a PM or when we look at a work order, we're looking at the front end. It's the way that the system displays the information. But that information on that work order is not one piece of information. That is coming from different modules that are buried down in your CMMS. 

And the first part of that, the first module is the “activity.” It might be called the operation. It might be called the task if it's a corrective. But I'm going to call it the activity. Right? So a PM activity, meaning like, “Inspect the bearing for proper lubrication,” right? That is an activity. That one module is designed to hold just that activity, and you can put with that like who it takes, what resources – it takes 1 mechanic, it takes 5 minutes, 6 minutes, whatever it is, 0.1 hours –and all that information is contained in that activity. 

But that activity, what it doesn't have is it doesn't have a schedule and it doesn't have an asset because those are different modules. So if I start looking at my assets from the component level, and I say, “I'm going to design activities around the components,” Well, guess what? Most bearings are really the same. It doesn't matter if it's a bearing on a gearbox or a bearing on a motor or a bearing on anything else. If it's a rolling bearing, it's very likely that I'm going to treat it very similarly from asset to asset. 

So I can make an activity to “lubricate the bearing.” I can make that one activity, and I know that activity takes one technician or one lube tech, and it takes about 5 minutes. And I can put that piece of information together and save that, and that becomes an activity. 

Now, nothing's going to happen. It's just going to sit there in the CMMS, because the next thing I have to do is I have to go tie it to an asset. So I save that bearing lubrication activity, and I say, you know what? I have 500 assets that have the bearing that I would like to apply this to, and you start making that connection. Let's go to the first asset, and we're going to connect that activity to that asset. And now that asset has an activity, and if I make the second connection and the third connection and I make all 500 connections, I only wrote the activity once, but I made 500 connections. And now if I have to change it, it makes all 500 changes, but I only change it once. Right, so there's some efficiencies.

About the Author

Thomas Wilk

Thomas Wilk

editor in chief

Thomas Wilk joined Plant Services as editor in chief in 2014. Previously, Wilk was content strategist / mobile media manager at Panduit. Prior to Panduit, Tom was lead editor for Battelle Memorial Institute's Environmental Restoration team, and taught business and technical writing at Ohio State University for eight years. Tom holds a BA from the University of Illinois and an MA from Ohio State University

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